Spare a rose logo and photos of Scott Johnson, Kerri Sparing and Bennet Dunlap

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This interview is from our first Spare a Rose episode back in 2016. Stacey talks to advocates Scott Johnson, Kerri Sparling & Bennet Dunlap. In addition to learning more about he life-saving program, they also play our very first game show.

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Stacey Simms 0:00
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Stacey Simms 0:23
Hello and welcome to one of our classic episodes. I am so glad to have you here I am your host, Stacey Simms. And as always, we aim to educate and inspire about diabetes with a focus on people who use insulin. I want to talk to you about sphere of Rhodes. And if you think you know what that is all about, stay tuned anyway, because I guarantee nobody else has done a podcast like this on this issue all about sphere arose. So what is it? Well, each February since 2013, the diabetes online community all over the world has supported the charity life for a child through the spare aros save a child campaign. It is a very simple idea. Valentine’s Day is coming up in the campaign goes all throughout February. But the thinking is that you should send 11 rather than 12 roses to the person that you love on Valentine’s Day. And then the money that you saved from that one rose goes to spare a rose, and that one rose will provide a child with diabetes in an under resourced country enough insulin for one month. The math here is pretty simple. One rows equals one month, there are links in the show notes that on the homepage, I’ll put them out on social as well with more information and easy ways to donate. I set mine up every year to just kind of keep going every month. It’s very simple. And I was really excited way back when for my first spare arose episode on this podcast because I got to talk to three terrific advocates who helped create and nurture the program and continue to do so today. So I’m really excited to bring you this classic episode from 2016, which also features my very first game show on this podcast. We’ll get to that in just a moment. But first, this episode of Diabetes Connections is brought to you by inside the breakthrough a new history of science podcasts full of digital stuff. The most recent episode is all about the electric car. I got a sneak peek, sneak Listen, I love this show. It is all about how bad timing killed the electric car. But it’s also explaining rural versus urban, and women entering the workforce and there’s so much going on in the background of the story. Inside the breakthrough was created by Simon Simon is a group of Canadian researchers dedicated to changing the way we detect treat and even reverse type two diabetes. You can find inside the breakthrough and this latest episode at Diabetes or just search for it anywhere you listen to podcasts. My guests this week are three people familiar to many of you. They always step up when they’re needed. And I’m lucky to call them my friends now. Scott Johnson works at my sugar. He was there back when we spoke for this interview. But I knew him best at the time from his blog, Scott’s diabetes. Bennett Dunlap has two children with type one, they’re adults now. And since we first spoke, he has been diagnosed with Type two. He’s been very open about that. He’s been writing about that. And we last spoke when we were on a panel in gosh in November, December just of last year, and he was continuing to share his story. Carrie Sparling was writing six until me every weekday at the time of this interview, she did close the book on that blog not too long ago, she has just published a book of poetry. It’s called range bolus. And I will have a link in the show notes I just found out about that I haven’t had a chance to order my copy myself. But I will very excited for carry on that. And another note spare arose itself has changed a little bit since this interview, you’ll hear us talk about Johnson and Johnson’s involved made a few other points that may have changed, but the mission and the need have not changed. So if you can help, please do so. And remember, this podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Then it Carrie and Scott, welcome to Diabetes Connections.

Unknown Speaker 4:09
Oh, thank you, Stacey. It’s

Unknown Speaker 4:10
a pleasure to be here.

Unknown Speaker 4:12
Thanks for having us.

Unknown Speaker 4:13
Yeah, it’s a thrill. Thanks,

Stacey Simms 4:14
Kerry. Let’s start with you. Tell me a little bit about how spear rose came about.

Kerri Sparling 4:19
I’m sure and I’ll probably screw it up just a little tiny bit. So guys feel free to jump in and correct me at any point. But I’m spare Rose was born out of as you had mentioned, the Partnering for diabetes change group kind of got together and tried to come up with an idea and it’s not exactly it’s actually not at all sponsored by the IDF but their charity life for a child benefits from this program. So what it is like you said, you know, instead of buying the roses, you you really what it actually is, let me just back up a little bit is it’s a way for those of us who have access to a lot to acknowledge that privilege and to kind of pop that bubble of privilege and help touch the lives of people outside of that access point. And you know, give a little of what we have two other people living with diabetes. We know what it’s like. to miss an insulin injection or under calculate an insulin dose, we know what high blood sugars feel like the idea of having a child suffer from that and potentially die from that is too heartbreaking to even comprehend. So if there’s a little bit that we can do to help move, the mission forward of gaining access to insulin for other people around the world, you know, in developing countries, we were like, yeah, this is something we we can’t not do this is this is a must. So we all got together and decided that we could try to rally the community around this cause I think it’s been very successful. Because again, it’s not like one person or one group or one. I don’t know, any driving force that that that runs this, it’s everybody touched by diabetes has the chance to reach in and impact lives in a really, really big way. It’s kind of hard to say no to that.

Stacey Simms 5:45
And Scott was part of the idea here to keep it kind of simple. I mean, you buy food, you can still buy flowers on Valentine’s Day, but maybe donate the value of just maybe one or two roses, what that would cost.

Scott Johnson 5:55
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, simplicity is, is really important. When it comes to ideas like this, and I think ideas need to be simple in order for them to take off and and for a lot of people to get behind them and support because they have to be simple to understand for those of us who are really involved in the in the community and involved in diabetes, we understand and get it. But we’re we want this message to reach many people who are not necessarily touched by diabetes or not, not that involved in the community. We wanted to reach a much wider audience. And so it needs to be a very simple idea, both simple to a to explain, simple to understand and simple to do as well.

Stacey Simms 6:46
And Bennett, you’re very involved in policy, do you think people are still surprised to find that, while we’re talking about a specific kind of access here in the US, perhaps that in other parts of the world, the access is is much more limited?

Bennet Dunlap 6:58
You know, I think that maybe they are and maybe it’s a good thing that we remind them, but I don’t think that anybody is surprised that insulin is hard to get and economies that are struggling. So like Carrie said, this is an opportunity for everybody to join in. Nobody owns sparrows, the community own sparrows, you own sparrows, because you’re doing this podcast, God owns it, because he writes about it, whoever jumps on board is a part owner of what we’re doing here. And like Scott says, It’s super easy to do. So what do you do you go to spare all one word sparrows. And you click on the big rows at the top of that page. And it’s going to take you to a donation page. And you can give through PayPal stupid easy, there’s two dropdowns, you can give a one time gift you can give a rose. So you know Valentine’s Day, a full bouquet of fancy dancy roses is maybe 60 bucks. So you take thinking give 11 take five bucks, give it the sparrows that’s going to help a child stay alive for a month. Or maybe you give monthly, maybe you give a rose every month, that’s a full dozen roses over the course of a year, five bucks a month. I mean, I got a Starbucks coffee staring at me. And you know, five bucks a month is way less than what I spend on coffee. And that will keep a child alive for a year. So you go to either click on the give button or just click on that giant rose on the top there. Click the drop downs for whatever type of donation you want to make. Make the payment through PayPal, boom, you’re done. You’ve helped save a life.

Stacey Simms 8:35
And Carrie has been described as stupid easy, which I think is great. Bennett it really sounds like it’s simple. Okay, you know, what has this come to mean to you this is I believe this is the fourth year that you will have tried to get the word out and supported this. Are you seeing change through it? Do you feel like this is something that will continue? Oh, God, I

Kerri Sparling 8:55
will I mean, I I really hope it’s something that will continue. But I think that change happens twofold. The first is the most important change, which is every every little donation goes and changes and improves and potentially saves the life of a child that’s that is the Paramount thing, the thing that should always be on the forefront. But secondarily, people in the community are becoming more and more aware of what we truly have access to and how lucky we are as a group of people. I mean, here we are sitting on this Skype call. We’re using our computers we texted before using our emails, whatever super privileged, very lucky, I don’t worry about where my next injection of insulin is coming from, but to think about Hey, what’s it like to worry about that what’s it like to not have access to something I’m so accustomed to, to recognize how lucky we are, helps people step outside of themselves, help the community kind of evolve and grow in a way that really benefits everybody, not just the people in the community but the people outside of the community who are part of the community, but are benefiting from this campaign. We never meet these people whose lives that were changing but but knowing that we’re able to, to make that change. That’s really powerful stuff. And I’m hoping that out through this campaign, it helps kind of bring to bloom other ideas from different groups about how to acknowledge what we have and spread the wealth.

Stacey Simms 10:10
Well, that’s a really good point. Because Scott, as the point was made here, you know, this is not an idea that has a little tm after it, there’s not really a copyright. Right, there isn’t a tm, I didn’t make that up. Just to just to check. So when we say no one owns this, and the community owns this, Scott, how have you seen that taken off, because it does look like the diabetes community really has embraced it?

Scott Johnson 10:34
Well, I think it’s important that that that it is embraced by everybody. And this is an idea that, that needs to be owned and embraced by as many people as possible. If If, if there’s someone that tries to own something like this, it just doesn’t go as far. So the whole thing is just get it out in, in, owned by owned by everybody owned by anyone that can talk about it or share it, you own it, you You are a part of it in and everybody involved with it, as is so thankful that you are doing what you’re doing for it. So yeah.

Stacey Simms 11:12
I’m curious to you know, the diabetes online community is a very big community. But it also seems very small in that we all kind of get to know each other. And you know, you really are many people are very accessible on Twitter, or you can you can reach them. I guess what I’m getting to and Carrie, let me read this to you is, how did you all come up with this? We talked about the you Partnering for diabetes change? What is that? Did you all sit around a table and Scott had his diet coke? And you guys kind of talk about it that way? How did it come about?

Kerri Sparling 11:43
The sparrows idea itself?

Unknown Speaker 11:45

Kerri Sparling 11:46
well, this, the Partnering for diabetes change coalition is a group of people who were brought together with assistance from Johnson and Johnson. So we do have to give them a huge nod because they, they don’t own this project. But they’ve helped in part to shepherd it. And I’m really proud of of the investment that they’ve made in bringing the advocates together so that we could incubate this kind of idea, the idea itself, and Jeff is going to hate me for saying this. But the idea was actually born from Jeff Hitchcock, who runs the children with diabetes group. And it was just latched on to immediately by everybody in the room because it didn’t serve an agenda. It didn’t serve anybody’s ego. It wasn’t this Oh, look at me sort of thing. It was more this is actual social media for social good. This is a powerful thing. And everybody just took it and, and ran with it. So it was it was an awesome meeting. And what’s come of that is, like everyone has mentioned already, nobody owns it. So this one idea, which was incubated by the group has been grabbed by the community of people living with diabetes, and beyond the diabetes community, into the patient community, and to people who work for diabetes companies. I mean, there’s a lot of potential for this idea to spread. And it’s a good idea to spread.

Stacey Simms 12:51
And better give me your perspective, because as I mentioned, you work a lot now, with policy and that’s been your interest for a while, put this in perspective for us in terms of how much easier perhaps something like spare Rose is to create change and to have an actual impact, as opposed to trying to make change happen legislatively? Well,

Bennet Dunlap 13:12
you know, I’ll tell you, I think that spirit Rose is the foundation of other change. I will tell you flat out that when we did the strip safely campaign, I went took the notes of how we created sparrows and just replayed them with different branding. So, you know, you mentioned that the community is large, but it feels small, I think the community is large, but it feels intimate. And what we can do with that intimacy is ask each other to help. And sparrows, to me is the very foundation of helping because like Carrie said, You’re helping people you don’t know you’ll never see them. If you’re super lucky, maybe you’ll be at an event where IDF shows some of the art that these kids make, you know, and it’s typical refrigerator art. In it, you see a little bit of an image of a kid that realizes they’re staying alive because they’re getting this magic Insulet from somebody. And that to me is the key is that we do things for others. We do things for people that will never see and then eventually we can do things for policy. But you know, if we’re not living for others, we’re never going to get to the policy stuff. So to me sparrows is foundational in everything we do. It’s all about other people and taking the gifts you have and sharing them.

Scott Johnson 14:30
It’s you know, there’s it’s important to know that any anything helps, right like, this has been a really wonderful idea. We’ve seen it go a great ways so far. But if if all you can do is is one rows, that’s a tremendous help before you can do a spread if you can’t do one rows, but you can help spread the message. That’s also a tremendous help like don’t undervalue whatever You can do to help this cause it all, it all goes a very long way.

Bennet Dunlap 15:05
You know? Absolutely, it’s about doing what you can. And when we track what happens, we track how many people have given, doesn’t matter how much you give that that you give is important to us. And if you can find five bucks, that’s great and echo what Kerry said, you know, we really fortunate that the J and J brought us all and put us all in a room and then step back and, and let ideas flow. And I agree with what carries it Jeff came up with this idea and we jumped all over it hijack the rest of the agenda and spent the day figuring out how to make this work. But it isn’t just j&j to get help. So if you have a business and you want to do a fun morale booster in February, let’s face it, February in North America sucks. It’s cold, rainy, and awful. or snowy and awful. So have a little campaign in your office put a little sign up by the coffee pot. It could be you know, your your local HVC vendor, it could be another company in the industry. Whatever this isn’t a company’s it isn’t a person. It’s everybody’s

Stacey Simms 16:12
more info on all of this at Diabetes And I really hope you find it in your heart to learn more and to donate spare rose is a great cause. And we’re going to do our best to make our own donations with something fun today. If you’re familiar with Wait, don’t tell me the NPR Quiz Show. This next segment is with full credit. And full apologies to those fine, folks. We’re gonna have the Diabetes Connections version of bluff the listener and a News Quiz. If you’re not familiar with Wait, wait, don’t tell me. If this will still be fun. It’s just kind of kind of silly. All right, so we need to welcome a listener. And I’m so excited to welcome Laura Duvall. She is here in Charlotte, and she’s a published writer, founder of duelled marketing group. Laura, thanks for being here.

Unknown Speaker 17:01
Absolutely. Thanks for having me. I’m excited.

Stacey Simms 17:04
Laura, you have type 1 diabetes, right? Tell me a little bit about about you.

Unknown Speaker 17:10
Oh, absolutely. So I was diagnosed with Type One Diabetes, when I was 10 years old. And have really benefited I think over the last 20 years, 25 years or so with the new technology in play for diabetics. So I got a pump when I was in high school that really allowed me to kind of play sports and go out with my friends. And about two years ago, I got one of the Dexcom sensors, which has totally changed my world. I’m a big runner. So I have done quite a few half marathons, was actually training to run the Disney marathon this coming weekend I got injured. But the technology that’s available for diabetics now is really amazing. I mean, it just gives you confidence that, you know, you can be an active and force and you’re not having to test your blood sugar 800 times a day. So you know, I have had really benefited I think from the advances in technology with diabetes and you know, love love being involved in the starlight community and then the health and wellness area. I’ve worked for a health care system for about eight years in marketing and and now have stepped out on my own to do the same thing. So I’m really excited to be a part of today.

Stacey Simms 18:27
Excellent. Well, thank you so much for joining us. And you, you set this next segment up perfectly talking about new technology, because every year, there are lots of announcements of diabetes, product breakthroughs, and some are useful and very helpful and they change our lives for the better is easy, we’re just talking about, but some make a splash never really take off. And others are just abject failures, like the ones you’re going to hear about. Our guests are going to relate a story of a failed diabetes product. One of these products is for real it made it to market, but the other two are products only of our imagination. Laura, if you can guess which is the real deal. And Bennett, Carrie and Scott are going to do their best to fool you. Diabetes Connections will make a $50 donation to spare rose in your name. Are you ready?

Unknown Speaker 19:18
I’m ready. All right.

Stacey Simms 19:19
Carrie, are you set? Why don’t you go first?

Unknown Speaker 19:22
All right,

Benny 19:23
let me sell it to you.

Kerri Sparling 19:24
So tech savvy type one teens have created a new app for your smartphone or tablet. It’s called selfish and it’s aimed at those whose parents use remote monitoring software like you know, Dexcom share nightscout. So the app creates a fake book kind of reasonable blood glucose graph, which is that beam back to the parents device. So when they look at their phone, they’re like, Oh, good. My kid is doing what they’re supposed to be doing. And it also includes text notifications, like yes, I checked or Yes, I have my neater however the Creator is being teenagers, you know how teenagers are. They couldn’t resist being kinda like slightly jerk faces. So an early version of the app included hidden jokes and a few inappropriate It references to Nick Jonas as most things do. Parents nearly half as stupid as teenagers think they are picked up that something might not be exactly right after the first few references to this Disney Channel though Daya booty which is they give you a weird even saying that out loud.

Unknown Speaker 20:14
But the tech

Kerri Sparling 20:15
savvy parents have since created an override app and are on the lookout for updates. Not everybody

Stacey Simms 20:21
says diabesity carry that’s not in your everyday vernacular there. Because that’s

Kerri Sparling 20:25
what that is my wheelhouse, but I just felt weird saying it to all of you.

Stacey Simms 20:29
Okay, so the selfish app created by teens is our is our first story there. Bennett. Let’s hear what you have.

Bennet Dunlap 20:39
Okay, well, I’m going to tell you about this great app. It’s called the Neuchatel food analyzer. And it was going to be the answer for counting carbs on the go. You take a quick picture of your food and your phone. It delivers it the live operators at Neuchatel. And within three minutes, they promised an accurate within plus or minus 20%. So your judgment on accuracy may vary. carb count, users can also pay for upgraded access to more food information as well as ingredients and warnings for gluten allergens. How ever the product never made it out of beta testing, because that’s when users found out that each meal came with snarky comments like, oh, that salad looks really delicious, good choice, or in my case, boom. Do you really need to eat that slice of cheesecake? Or Didn’t you have a hamburger yesterday, further investigation showed that not only were the people behind this app particularly judgmental, they were also a division of a large Health Insurance Group. In other words, the neutral app would tell on you giving your insurance company valuable information about your eating habits. And once the word got out, the community went after it and it was scrapped.

Stacey Simms 21:50
Bennett’s telling us about the nutrit L Food app which basically told on the user and their eating habits to health insurance. Scott, what do you have?

Scott Johnson 22:00
All right. Imagine using a laser to painlessly perforate your skin to get a drop of blood instead of having to use a metal needle. A company called a cell robotics created the laser net, which used laser energy to penetrate the skin. testing showed that adequate adequately trained patients could perform finger pinpricks with the laser device as easily and accurately as with land sets. But the laser required some difficult maintenance and instruction. And there was a noticeable odor of burning flesh with each test. Some user said that was a bit of a turn off, the price may have also kept this one from taking off. One LaserJet device cost about $500. Maybe because you could get close to a lifetime supply of regular lancets for that the laser printer is no longer available for purchase.

Stacey Simms 23:08
All right, Laura, your products are the lay set, which gave you great accuracy without having to poke your finger with a needle however, the smell of burning flesh turns people off the Nutri Patel health food app, which told on you or the selfish up which was developed by teenagers to fool their parents who use share and nightscout which one is real, which one is the real product that we did makeup

Unknown Speaker 23:36
was easy. As much as I would love to say it was the diet booty. I’m gonna go with number two, the neutral cow,

Stacey Simms 23:46
then it is the neutral tell a real deal.

Bennet Dunlap 23:49
I know it’s fake.

Unknown Speaker 23:53
But I want

Bennet Dunlap 23:54
you to tell and diabetes, you’re teaming up to sugars, but fake your carb counts.

Stacey Simms 24:02
We’re still gonna make the donation to spare Rosie your name because you were such a good sport. And this was so funny. But yeah, the lace set. Scott, did you know about that product before you read about that?

Scott Johnson 24:16
A little bit. But it’s like one of the many things that we often hear about as people living with diabetes where you know, these things come to market and you’re like, Okay, this sounds so ridiculous that I’m just not going to even give it much brain bandwidth. So yeah,

Stacey Simms 24:34
yeah. But it was a real product. I don’t know how far along because it was it was I think it was a little bit before my time in the diabetes community. Laura, it sounded like you might have heard of it when we mentioned it again.

Unknown Speaker 24:45
Yeah, it does sound familiar, something I may have read about. I think I just in my mind, I was thinking you know, the nature style app seems just like something that I could be going to market and just being a terrible disaster. I’ll tell you what’s funny. With my gut,

Unknown Speaker 25:00
yeah, well,

Stacey Simms 25:01
that’s okay. But what’s funny to guys is, I just saw this week that I’m not a app that hopefully reports back to anybody else. But that there are a few camera like devices that claim to show the nutritional information in your food. I mean, I think that’s awesome. Yeah, very interesting stuff. I’m not sure how much we you know, we’d have to see some studies to trust it. But that That to me is amazing. Amazing. Absolutely. Well, Laura, thank you so much for playing as I said, we’re still gonna make the donation to spare rose in your name. We really appreciate you taking part and thanks again.

Bennet Dunlap 25:35
Thanks, Laura.

Unknown Speaker 25:41
Scott, yeah. Oh, sorry. I

Kerri Sparling 25:43
was gonna say I love the way you read yours. Because the entire time every time you said laser, I kept picturing Dr. Evil.

Unknown Speaker 25:52
The laser,

Unknown Speaker 25:54
sir. Awesome. I just

Scott Johnson 25:56
had this, this image of like a waft of smoke coming up from her finger. You know.

Unknown Speaker 26:07
You’re listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms.

Stacey Simms 26:13
And our last segment today, we want to give you guys a little bit of a quiz. I don’t think you can really prepare for this. So I hope you didn’t study too hard. But as we mentioned, Kerry writes the award winning blog six until me, and the title refers to a piece that she wrote from the point of view of diabetes, which came into her life at age six, six until me and I’ll link that up at Diabetes, Connections calm, I’d urge you to read it. But today, we’re going to find out how much you will know about diabetes, and years ending in six. For this quiz. You’ll hear a fact about diabetes and choose which year it happened. I’m calling it which six will it be? as well,

Kerri Sparling 26:56
I after I feel like I need to jump in because I’ve already screwed up the quiz. I was seven when I was diagnosed, I was using poetic license. I didn’t think about SEO and I just now screwed up the entire podcast. So I’m sorry. My symptoms were when I was six,

Unknown Speaker 27:13
but the actual diagnosis was seven. I’m gonna hang up now. Even if you’re a really good person, I really like you.

Stacey Simms 27:25
Thank you very much. I enjoyed the wordplay. So we’re keeping it which six will it be? But I also like the facts. So that’s great. All right. Each guest is going to get two questions. If a total of four of the six are answered correctly, we will make another $50 donation in a listeners name. In fact, carry might be paying that man, but we’re gonna make a $50 donation to sparrows in elicitors name. Alright, so here we go. Which six will it be? next year? We’re going to rename this sucker and we’ll go from there. Alright, carry on. We’re gonna start with you. The distinction? I know pressure, right? The distinction between what is now known as Type One Diabetes and type two diabetes was first clearly made and published. In what year 1876 1906 or 1930? Things quizzes

Unknown Speaker 28:20
I totally didn’t study on. I’m

Unknown Speaker 28:22
going to go with,

Kerri Sparling 28:22
would you say 1936?

Unknown Speaker 28:24
Was that the last one?

Unknown Speaker 28:26
That’s the one I’m using.

Unknown Speaker 28:28
Right? Correct. All right.

Unknown Speaker 28:30
All right.

Stacey Simms 28:33
Question number two, Scott. This is for you. Insulin, crystallization improved its purity and opened the door to the time action profiles such as extended insulin in what year was Insulet first crystallized? 1926 1946 or 1976?

Unknown Speaker 28:49

Scott Johnson 28:51
I’m gonna save the middle. The middle option.

Unknown Speaker 28:54
Oh, I’m

Stacey Simms 28:55
sorry. It’s not 1946 it was 1926 Wow. Okay. 26. Right. Okay. Okay, Bennett, this one’s for you. In what year did Eliot Jocelyn published the first edition of the treatment of diabetes at 96 1916 or 1936 96? I’m sorry, that’s incorrect. 1916 is the incident we’re

Bennet Dunlap 29:21
dragging the team down. We’re just

Stacey Simms 29:24
which is kind of crazy because the you know, insulin wasn’t commercially available until 1923. But that was when it was first published or carried

Unknown Speaker 29:33
out Gary.

Stacey Simms 29:38
When was the When was the first successful pink I’ve lost all control. When was the first successful pancreas transplant 1946 1966 or 1986. I’m sorry. Oh,

Unknown Speaker 29:51
third guess

Stacey Simms 29:53
that’s right. Also could have been 1967. I guess. We got out When was the first wearable insulin pump invented? 1956 1966 or 1976. So,

Scott Johnson 30:08
so I’m thinking about, like my mind is, is saying, define wearable? And I’m picturing that. That photo. We’ve all seen of that guy with that gnarly backpack.

Stacey Simms 30:22
Oh, yeah, no, I don’t you know what I have to, I’d have to check my notes. But I was talking really slowly there when I said, 1970s. I’m gonna

Scott Johnson 30:32
say 1976. Then

Stacey Simms 30:37
very nicely done. And I will, I will look that up and stick it in the show notes. Because I was thinking of the backpack guy too. Yeah, that’s crazy. But I’m not quite sure what they I think by wearable they mean, like wearable with that behind your back. Portable, maybe even more so than that. Okay. And Ben at our last, I haven’t been keeping track of who got what, right. 123 Bennett? When was NPH insulin released? 1946 1956 or 1966 56?

Unknown Speaker 31:05

Stacey Simms 31:10
I’m sorry. 1946. I should have I should have been a little bit more clear there, too. Okay, I think you guys got to share two and a half.

Unknown Speaker 31:20
All right.

Bennet Dunlap 31:22
This is the sixth quiz. And the only ones that count her from her because her podcast is six until me.

Unknown Speaker 31:28
Yeah, but I only got one, right. And also, I don’t have a podcast.

Stacey Simms 31:37
I think we just need to move along. And we will make the $50 donation to spare rows. And I might give you each $50 to not have this.

Bennet Dunlap 31:45
So I think what’s important to take away from this is the diabetes is hard. Even the history is hard.

Stacey Simms 31:53
And the numbers are always hard. It’s not

Bennet Dunlap 31:55
just a numbers game.

Stacey Simms 31:58
Oh, my goodness. Well, thanks for playing along with that. That was quite ridiculous. And it was hard.

Unknown Speaker 32:08
Oh, you’re so positive. He’s the nicest. Okay,

Stacey Simms 32:14
so next year, which six? Will it be will turn into something with seven, but we’ll figure it out

Bennet Dunlap 32:20
studying next year?

Stacey Simms 32:21
All right. It’s kind of goofy. But it’s all for a good cause. And I wish you all so well, this year with spare rose, I know it’s gonna be a really big success. And it has been for the last few years. Anything else that you all want to add any other places that you’re going to be appearing?

Scott Johnson 32:36
Well, I think Stacy, we we really want to thank you for helping spread the sparrows message that’s really great of you and will go a long way towards helping the cause. And we really, really appreciate that. So thank you.

Unknown Speaker 32:50

Kerri Sparling 32:51
I’ll echo that. And also, I mean, I love that you you picked spare rose to kind of run with as far as raising awareness and raising some money. So I’m hoping that other organizations follow you’re very, very good lead and and jump in with this. And it would be great to have people in the diabetes community and the broader patient community. Be part of this, this thing that’s so important to us,

Stacey Simms 33:12
Ben, any last words?

Bennet Dunlap 33:13
No, not at all, at all.

Stacey Simms 33:15
Excellent. All right. Well, once again, thank you all so very much for joining me Carrie Sparling. Scott Johnson Bennett, Dunlap, I appreciate your time and what you’re doing for sparrows, end of the diabetes community. It’s always great to talk to you. And we’ll be in touch. I’m sure that there’ll be a lot more sparrows news in the next two weeks. Thanks for being with me.

Unknown Speaker 33:34
Thank you, Stacey.

Unknown Speaker 33:41
You’re listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms.

Stacey Simms 33:46
If you would like to help or find out more about spare arose very easy. Just go to Diabetes and click on this episode homepage. As I said, I’ll put some stuff out on social and I will link up to Karis book and Bennett’s blog and Scott’s blog as well. For more information. I’m going to also link you up to renza. Should Billy his blog because she is really taking the lead now I’m getting the word out about spear rose. We’ve had her on the show for other issues as well. But she wrote recently that in the eight years the campaign is run, they’ve raised more than $261,000. This is not a big corporate campaign. This is individual donations from, as they say on PBS, people like you, but I mean all kidding aside, that is 52,347 roses, which means that a whole year’s worth of insulin has been provided to almost 4400 children and young people with diabetes and under resourced countries. renza wrote, I still get goosebumps just thinking about that. And renza I share that sentiment as well. Thank you for putting that together. Thank you for continuing to bang the drum for sparrows and get the message out and thank you all for donating look very simple as they said in the interview and I’m glad we were able to have some fun with it. But it is such a small thing that you can do the chemic such a serious difference. So if you can please help. And sometimes helping is just spreading the word I understand that everybody has the resources to give or your money is already earmarked for things. If you can share the Word that would be awesome. Thank you so much to my editor, john Buchanan’s for audio editing solutions. Thank you so much for listening. I’m Stacey Simms. I’ll see you back here next week. Until then, be kind to yourself.

Benny 35:29
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